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Subject to Allen's annoucement I may think otherwise but I will not even consider new developments/purchases unless results (not comments) are factual.

Is the recurring scrutiny, for long term, worth it?

in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by 7736237 Paine ]]> Mon, 24 Sep 2007 17:31:20 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2732 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
I figure I have earned the .03 as "interest"!!!


in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Arnaud Villota ]]> Mon, 24 Sep 2007 16:30:58 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2730 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Valerian Dryke ]]> Mon, 24 Sep 2007 15:21:10 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2728 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Dezmond Martinek ]]> Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:32:48 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2723 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
There was a simple and easy action without financial impact, -- the transfer of AIG shares as promised. It was and it is never executed. Even the execution is and was not started, except an announcement.

Thus actions with a financial impact we can forget it, except by forcing them...


in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by WieBenIk Beaumont ]]> Mon, 24 Sep 2007 14:10:01 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2720 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Wellington Philbin ]]> Mon, 24 Sep 2007 07:34:30 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2709 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Lindsay Druart ]]> Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:36:00 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2661 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
If a transfer (or Allen's return to manage) can be accomplished, I am hopeful that one of several solutions identified can save our fat from this fire.

in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Wellington Philbin ]]> Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:27:12 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2660 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Dezmond Martinek ]]> Sun, 23 Sep 2007 12:18:30 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2657 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
I then had a very short conversation about a week later regarding my tier for the 3 parcels I have in Allenvest. I asked him to deduct the tier from my AFB account and he agreed. My tier was due on the 15th. I informed Estates to take my tier out of AFB. She indicated that she would have him deduct it. To date my account balance reflects no deductions. So no, I am afraid tier may not have been or will not be paid. However, he may have paid out of his pocket. Who knows? We all know that he had a great idea with this new community. He was so adamant about making this dream come true. Why would he let it all go to hell like this is beyond me. The only one to address this is Allen.

I have a parcel in Commerce City East too. Lindsay and Luke have been great estate owners. They bought those sims under firestorm, sorted through that mess, and now have smooth ops going.

A suggestion - as we move forward in trying to save the Allenvest Sims I suggest we consider letting this Bishop Sim, the non-developed one with no roads, go. It would eliminate some overhead and might make things more managable.

in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Ashleigh Wade ]]> Sun, 23 Sep 2007 10:17:55 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2646 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
but I do agree. A united front will wage the battle. I would say try to contact Allen, as I have done myself and come to a resolution. There is still a chance to save face here. Money loss is never the end. Look at AT&T and Kmart...came out of bankruptcy buying up stuff.

I would like to see a tangible resolve.

in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Lindsay Druart ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:13:53 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2630 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569

in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Arnaud Villota ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 22:59:51 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2629 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Lindsay Druart ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 16:53:49 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2613 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
Also, Lindsay and others, is there anyway that you can do what you are doing with the land owners for the Bank? Not necessarily for me, I have already written off my loss, but there are some folks here whose IPO money was not transferred with the take over. That affects all of us who have invested in those stocks. They have a hell of a lot more at stake than I do. Do we need to form our own contingent? Wouldn't it be more effective if all of us joined together under one representative so that LL may take this seriously?

Just wondering.

Thanks.



in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Arnaud Villota ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:39:48 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2612 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Lindsay Druart ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 15:18:45 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2608 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
Negotiate with LL

Figure out potential cash outflow for tier payments and due dates.

Liquidate and or distribute assets as is most fair and practical.

As I doubt anyone who invested in AIG will complain I think it is safe to send out a list and a request to LL for recievership as well as a request for financial information regarding the sims. If you could do this Lindsey it would be greatly appreciated by a great many people. Once we have that information it is my belief the resources are available to sort out the rest. If they turn out not to be it is reasonable to assume the outcome would be the same as doing nothing and at least we can say we tried.



in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Dezmond Martinek ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:19:49 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2606 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Wellington Philbin ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:17:34 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2605 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
I do know that LL will not negotiate anything without the consent of the sim owner and this is from prior knowledge.

in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Lindsay Druart ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:54:42 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2604 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Wellington Philbin ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:44:30 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2602 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
I am not familiar with Commerce City and the Commerce sims. Is that a similar situation, where L&L took over for a vacant estate owner?

in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Wellington Philbin ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:41:39 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2601 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
In case Allen does not pay sim tier to LL, would L&L be willing to approach LL and take over those sims instead of having the sims basically destroyed or erased? Is there a possibility here, anyway, per LL TOS? And how about a collective of individuals who own parcels doing the job as a cooperative venture and coordinated by L&L? Just some thoughts. Because I'd find it really absurd to lose my land and LL losing sim tier just because of one individual.

in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Valerian Dryke ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:14:02 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Valerian Dryke ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 13:07:47 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2599 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Dezmond Martinek ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 12:40:04 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2598 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
Does anyone know if tier is current on the islands? Has anyone spoken to Allen? I imagine I am not his friend right now.

in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Lindsay Druart ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:59:00 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2592 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
Please let me know what I can do to help.

in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Ashleigh Wade ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:32:06 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2589 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Valerian Dryke ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:41:12 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2586 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
AllenvestPartnership shares : 27314
AIG Shares : 222147

Cash

in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Cash Yiyuan ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 10:26:32 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2584 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Wellington Philbin ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 09:50:27 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2581 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Enky Nakamura ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:59:33 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2576 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Dezmond Martinek ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:42:46 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2571 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569
Do you, or any other readers of the forum have any ideas how these sims can be saved? I am willing to participate in any credible effort to rescue the sims from the probable repossession by LL. I don't even know if it is possible, but if it is, I want to exhaust every avenue to try and save what I have been trying to accomplish there.

Also as a note, some of you may know that I have done some work for Allen in managing a building project. To date, I have not been paid for my efforts, nor do I expect to be paid now. I made the final payments to the builders of the government building he requested, and I will take possession of it and either make some use of it elsewhere, or sell it.

in topic Allenvest Estates Landowners by Wellington Philbin ]]> Sat, 22 Sep 2007 08:21:03 -0600 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/AIG/569/2570