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Your comment belongs in the SL Wallet Forum. Please confine your posts regarding SLW to that Forum.

Thank you.

Bo Beck

in topic Payouts by Bogart Beck ]]> Sun, 02 Nov 2008 23:48:49 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/878/17147 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/878
in topic Payouts by Onlythesoul Tempel ]]> Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:51:45 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/878/17145 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/1473 I m wait for months any responsable who tell me where is my money or how I can get back SOME money (hehe always lose the customers). But nothing. I sell part of my stock but (very funny uh) where I can withdraw it?---->in Fantasy Island maybe?

in topic Lets Talk About Getting Our Money Back by India Cortes ]]> Thu, 30 Oct 2008 17:04:24 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/1473/17090 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2294 for to know my cash availability :-)

in topic After an order my account balance is not touched by Kiki Lowey ]]> Sun, 12 Oct 2008 08:16:57 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2294/16687 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2294 I usually trade in another one stock market.
As I said in this thread title i'm a little surprised
to see that my balance amount is still displayed entirely
even I made an buy order.In the other stock market where I
used to trade when I made a buy order the buying amount
result substracted as natural.Why it seems not to be here
(or my newbie SLCapex condition not allows me to see it).
Thanx in advance for any explanation.

Best regards

Kiki Lowey

in topic After an order my account balance is not touched by Kiki Lowey ]]> Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:34:33 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2294/16683 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/878
in topic Payouts by Roli Bamaisin ]]> Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:30:33 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/878/16341 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2212
There should certainly be a better FAQ section for questions of this nature not to scare off potential investors, although when you've used Capex several times it does become very intuitive. There are many ways to achieve this, this is just one.

Make sure you are logged in

Select the "portfolio" tab
Under "My Cash" click on "Beck Investment Group".

This will take you to the trading screen.

Using the drop down menu in "Limit Order" select the "sell". Then select the quantity, price and time period. Click the estimate value, a screen will appear that will allow you to double check your order. If your happy click confirm.

Avoid using the "Market Order" tab when buying or selling because if you're timing is wrong or you make a slight mistake then it may become very expensive. With "Limit Order" you are fixing the price that you will be purchasing on selling.

Practice with buying and selling 1 share until you are comfortable with the process.

Hope that helps.

CB




in topic How to sell stock? by Cayman Beaumont ]]> Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:38:20 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2212/15965 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2212
in topic How to sell stock? by Syle Devin ]]> Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:02:48 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2212/15964 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
Also, I find it interesting that L&L is trying to get listed on ISE

http://www.intlstockexchange.com/punbb/viewtopic.php?id=447

Nice keeping your BOD in the loop.............

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Scott Nestler ]]> Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:08:58 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15859 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/878
in topic Payouts by Roli Bamaisin ]]> Mon, 18 Aug 2008 19:23:39 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/878/15770 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
These are the actual numbers for the LCA debt, all in USD so no conversion factors apply.

Sim Purchase, February 2008 1,675.00
Sim Tier, March 2008, 295.00
Sim Tier, April 2008, 295.00
Sim Tier, May 2008, 295.00
Total USD Amount is 2,560.00

In June I received 59,100 Lindens against the May 2008 tier.

The sim was sold for $500 USD

That would bring the balance to 2,060.00 minus the 59,100 Lindens

Everyone I know is using 275/1 as a conversion for Lindens to USD, so $215 would come off the balance bringing us to a final balance of $1,845

Lindsay, in the interests of bringing this to a amicable close I am asking for a 25% payment and even monthly payments over the course of the next 6 months.

I think that we both agree that this has been a thorn in our sides for long enough and neither one of us wants this to be an open issue any longer.

Thank you,
Scott

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Scott Nestler ]]> Fri, 08 Aug 2008 19:39:05 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15505 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151

"I look forward to discussing this further in person at the SLCC."

could VERY easily be taken as a threat. In general, jumping the SL/RL divide as you did is taken with apprehension. You've made a few claims on that page about your rights as a creditor. I'm actually curious whether they'd apply here or whether it all WOULD be construed as harassment. I'll be sure to research that later. But in the end, it doesn't change the fact that this thread has devolved into sheer madness. Nobody is contesting the debt. And nobody is discussing how best to handle THAT and the fifty other situations relating to this company. Both sides are pissed. Both want the other to give an inch. Neither will.

Meanwhile, there is a prevailing question of why 50K in assets is so important to revitalizing this company. There's a question of why plans aren't being drawn. Right now, each new attack is a distraction from having those questions answered. If you're of the opinion that Lindsay is a <insert term here> then each time you proceed with a vicious attack you give her an opportunity to dodge those issues. If you're Lindsay, each time you respond to those attacks, you're giving <insert term here> people more fuel for their attacks.

Scott, I very much hope you receive the money owed to you. I hope this works out for everyone. But no, I'm in no position to proxy anything. First, because I think you two can handle it yourselves quite easily. Second, after the very critical things I've said of Lindsay here, it would be unfair for her to have to interact with me.

In writing this, I've been forced to think about what I had been trying to do with my volunteer efforts regarding the exchanges. Not sure if I accomplished anything. But when I think about what I've been seeing from shareholders anymore, I think it's time for me to move along. Sounding clever and getting a good 'zinger' in has us stuck in a stasis. I've worn myself out trying to address issues people willingly ignore for the opportunity to lash out. I'm needed elsewhere.

Good luck,

km

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Konner McDonnell ]]> Fri, 08 Aug 2008 18:04:20 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15501 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
I would be happy to let you view all of the correspondence that I have with Lindsay.

None of these discussions have anything to do with compensation for my shares, which is a large stake in both LLFS and LCA. These are discussions about a financing deal that was done for LCA that ended poorly. Lindsay has publically acknowledged the debt and has yet to be paid or a plan documented to do so.

Lindsay has stated in both email and here that she wants a proxy to speak for me and that she doesn't want to deal with me any longer.

I can't imagine someone having my interests in mind as well as myself, but if your volunteering to take a crack at it let me know.

-Scott

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Scott Nestler ]]> Fri, 08 Aug 2008 14:15:32 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15495 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
Like I said, this truly isn't any of my business, but I'm going to be frank and honest until someone tells me to butt out. And I will without reply.

First and foremost, it pains me to see two grownups that actually pride themselves on being professionals engaging in this childish back-and-forth bickering. You two certainly didn't expect this shameful display of public discourse to yield actual results.

I must admit that I am not up-to-date on on L&L. But the reoccurring trend is ego, ego, ego. Lindsay tied her real life identity to her virtual aspirations. I applaud that kind of disclosure. And I think it explains now why she's hesitant to liquidate and walk away. It will follow her regardless. But the basis of her decision-making seems to reflect that concern and few others: "I must carry this burden" or "I will simply give up and discount the assets" or "just give the assets to Scott."

This pattern suggests that you wrongfully assume all decisions should be made by you. This must cease. Such an attitude is disrespectful of people who invested in you via the assumption that your decision carries all the weight. Many of these decisions are at-whim. And if you are not listening to the people who have entrusted you with their money, I must ask, are you listening to experience?

You began without much experience. And a continued belief that you can carry it all on your own has left you without a plan three months later. I tend to agree that negativity is relatively worthless, but attending to the negativity gracefully will, I assure you, win the day. More often than not, an angry investor is one that is not having their needs met. And people who readily agree with you are MUCH more of a threat than naysayers. As I have said before: If I were a CEO of a company and my BoD agreed with everything I did, I'd fire their *expletive withheld* on the spot.

You fully disclosed your identity. As I said, I applaud that. But what's going to haunt you isn't that L&L failed. It's going to be what came afterwards.


As it stands, there's no clear explanation of how 50K in assets would be significantly benefit a recovery effort. There is no dialogue on what to do next. There's alot of complaining and no listening. And where this Sully matter is concerned? If I were a CEO and one of my people ran off with money, you can damn well bet I'd be going after them in a major way. Because I will be damned if ANYONE is going to mistreat MY shareholders like that. Like the examples I already mentioned, Sully is an example of "It didn't happen like I thought it would, so I'm going to shrug my shoulders."

Scott, I expected someone that runs two virtual companies to be championing these suggestions far before now. Instead of asking the hard questions that reflect an interest in all L&L shareholders (which you are in a position to represent), emails were plastered on this board that do not tell a complete story. A personal battle was carried out right here where your shareholders can watch it. I can appreciate demands that you be recompensed for your shares. Expecting your approach to lead to such an outcome? Problematic.

I don't know what to make of either you of you right now. But I do know is that this petty bickering and passive aggression needs to stop. And it needs to stop pronto. Discussions need to be held. Plans need to be made. Something drafted on paper. Perhaps a contract. While I encourage all other shareholders NOT to put their faith in anyone they can't hold accountable, I certainly don't think this approach is going to win either of you any credibility in an environment current absent of shareholder remedies.

How you do it is up to you. And like I said, tell me to mind my own business if you like. I listen. But when you're reading this and preparing your fiery reply in outrage that I dare write such things, I want you take into account that it actually pained me to do it. I think it highly arrogant of me to talk to anyone this way, as if I really know them, their intentions, or dreams. But if I didn't see some potential in a positive resolution and the parties involved in this dialogue, I would not have bothered. My time is precious.







in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Konner McDonnell ]]> Fri, 08 Aug 2008 10:12:48 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15481 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
I am not having private conversations with you anymore because you never complete them.....let everyone see you for who you are.

Let everyone know that you cost your friend ServMe RL money and that is one of the reasons that she is no longer willing to act as mediator.

Bo, do not release anything to me till this is resolved...any payments released to me may be construed as a settlement and I am not settling a debt this large for that little.

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Scott Nestler ]]> Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:44:29 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15475 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
I'm done.



in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Lindsay Druart ]]> Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:39:25 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15474 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
Scott, we had agreed on another conversion way before this conversation and then when ServMe stepped in, the conversion got higher.

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Lindsay Druart ]]> Fri, 08 Aug 2008 07:27:43 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15473 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
I am posting here the entire thread, unedited.....you judge for yourself.

2 things to note, 1st I do not have spell check on my blackberry so sometimes my spelling is off, 2nd This entire thread took place Between June 4th and June 12th when ServeMe stepped in to arbitrate.

Note to Bogart: I scanned for profanity....none found


On Wed, Jun 4, 2008 at 2:18 PM, ServMe Nakamura <servme.nakamura@gmail.com <mailto:servme.nakamura@gmail.com> > wrote:
Scott, Lindsay,

I've talked to the both of you today in GTalk and while there is a distinct difference in how things are seen or perceived, what was most clear to me is that you both are business minded and hardheaded. Not a bad combination, but if you are on opposite sides of the fence, it can be very difficult to find a way to meet half way. What was also strikingly obvious, is that you both want to look ahead and recoup as much as possible, whether it be L$, USD, time, effort or enjoyment in SL. Let's work with that in mind, shall we?

I'll be launching a proposal that will cost both parties a fair share, whether it be cash, virtual assets or it may bruise your ego. Such is life and how people deal with mishaps also shapes them on how they deal with success. Sometimes it is necessary to take two steps back in order to be able to take a step forward again.

This proposal will only deal with the "sim issue" so to speak and will try to reach a middle ground each of you can find acceptable. It will not give you everything and the pony, nor will it do that for the other. Apart from reaching a compromise, the idea is to resolve the issue as soon as possible as it stands in the way of proceeding with other issues at hand.

- The sim is currently under ownership of Scott. This means that Scott can abandon it, sell it, split it 1-4 into open sims and rent those out himself or sell those off. Since Scott owns the sim, the 500K purchase debt is no longer to be paid by LCA, but the tier cost that was agreed upon for the sim for the months that the sim was online, remains payable to Scott. More about that in the next paragraph.

- However, there was also an understanding about tier to be paid from LCA to Scott. If I'm correctly informed, that was L$90,000 per month. Even though LCA didn't benefit from the sim itself, the tier cost for Scott remained, so for the months that the sim was up, tier should be paid by LCA to Scott. I believe that would be L$360,000 (4 months at L$90K=L$360K), minus any management fees if such an understanding exists.

A payment of L$59,100 has already been paid from the LNL Bing account on June 4th 2008, which would bring the remainder to L$300,900. A monthly payment of L$20,000 would be made to Scott to lower the debt, starting July 4th 2008. This seems to be realistic and sustainable, resulting in a slow but steady repayment of the debt. This would mean the tier debt is not converted to shares, which should make you rather happy, Scott.

The sim issue is a very complex one that needs to be resolved quickly, as it acts as a blocking factor for the reorganization of the complete LNL brand and companies. Without the reorganization, nothing moves and everyone loses.

Scott, Lindsay, feel free to reply and send feedback just to me so I can update figures and numbers as details emerge, however try keeping in mind that we're mostly looking for an acceptable solution, not a "I want to get everything out of this" settlement.

Kind regards,

ServMe Nakamura
Levelheaded ninja :)


On 6/4/08, Scott Nestler <nestler.investments@gmail.com <mailto:nestler.investments@gmail.com> > wrote:
ServMe,

Thank you for steping into this and trying to resolve the situation.

If a new sim was purchased today it would cost less than the sim purchased in February due to the pricing changes.

If we are going to pursue this route I would ask that the cost variance and the fee to convert the sim to 4 openspace units be added to the tier number provided.

Thank you,

Scott

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 9:36 PM, Lindsay Druart <lindsay.druart@gmail.com <mailto:lindsay.druart@gmail.com> > wrote:

I believe the tier number to be high. Tier with the current conversion is $81,500 which would bring the total to $326,000 minus $59,100 already paid equals $266,900 remaining. I just paid tier via lindens on 4 islands on the third and this is what I paid per sim.

I would agree to pay the conversion fee but the cost variance is something done by Linden Labs and would have been an issue for Scott whether LCA was involved or not so I do not think that is a fair fee to have to pay. We paid $1600 for 2 of our 6 sims but we aren't getting a refund for that so I don't believe that to be a fair bout.

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:38 PM, ServMe Nakamura <servme.nakamura@gmail.com <mailto:servme.nakamura@gmail.com> > wrote:
Scott, Lindsay,

I understand the point of view for the both of you regarding the sim resale price due to LL changing the price. While we could argue that Scott wouldn't have had the sim if LCA didn't order it through him, the same goes for Lindsay stating that she'd never have agreed to such a deal.

If Lindsay agrees to pay for the conversion at L$27,000 (about USD100) and stick with the L$90,000 tier figure for the past months, that would cover some of the resale value problem which was caused by LL. I will also send Scott a couple of names of people who may be interested in some extra Open Space sims.

If we add everything up, it would come down to :

+ 4x L$90,000
+ 1x L$27,000
- 1x L$59,100
---------------------
L$327,900 to be paid off at the rates as described in the initial proposal.

Feedback once again welcome

On 6/5/08, Scott Nestler <nestler.investments@gmail.com <mailto:nestler.investments@gmail.com> > wrote:
ServMe,

I would be willing to accept the lower debt number that you propose of 327,900 if I can receive a 50% down payment and 20k per month for 8 months and the balance to be paid in the ninth month. Any refunds owed to any Current Barbary tenents would be the responsibility of Lindsay and the sim would need to be evacuated in less than 10 days as Linden Labs has a 15 day lead time to convert sims.

-Scott

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:04 PM, Lindsay Druart <lindsay.druart@gmail.com <mailto:lindsay.druart@gmail.com> > wrote:

With the 288/1 conversion, the total would be $339,840 and the $27,000 seems to be on a 270/1 conversion. If we are going to do that, there the 270/1 conversion should be used on all portions of the transaction. The 270/1 conversion is actually too low. With that, a 285/1 conversion could be used bring the total to $336,300 and $28,500 for a total of $364,800 minus the $59,100 already paid bring the balance to $305,700.

If we could afford 50% of that right now, the monthly would not be set so low. We are working to move the residents now and have already made arrangements with them including keeping June tier as paid and 20% off July tier so the residents are taken cared of and they are currently moving. At current projections, $20,000 monthly is very feasible but as we proceed into the fall and winter months paying that off should not be an issue. I am also in the process of selling a copy of the LCA software which is more than enough to pay this off as well as a sim for sale. I don't anticipate to go beyond 6 months actually but this is what I see feasible with CURRENT projections.

On 6/5/08, Scott Nestler <nestler.investments@gmail.com <mailto:nestler.investments@gmail.com> > wrote:
I will address the conversion numbers later, as I am on a blackberry and no caculator is handy while typing.

In order to accept this sizable reduction I will need a down payment.

-Scott

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:12 PM, Lindsay Druart <lindsay.druart@gmail.com <mailto:lindsay.druart@gmail.com> > wrote:
Is the $59,100 not being factored into this at all?

On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 5:19 PM, Scott Nestler <nestler.investments@gmail.com <mailto:nestler.investments@gmail.com> > wrote:

Lindsay,

I have re-reviewed Servme's numbers.

4 months of tier, plus the conversion, minus the tier paid.

I am willing to accept this, forgetting the sim purchase price at these conversion numbers and a down payment. But I need the downpayment ASAP and the sim cleared before the 15th.

-Scott

On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 4:57 PM, Scott Nestler <nestler.investments@gmail.com <mailto:nestler.investments@gmail.com> > wrote:
Where are we with this?

On 6/12/08, Scott Nestler <nestler.investments@gmail.com <mailto:nestler.investments@gmail.com> > wrote:
Guys,

It's been about a week since we last spoke about this and today I read that LLFS and LCA are delisted.

Can we close up the loose ends on Barbary this week, please. I need to know what we are doing.

-Scott

On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Lindsay Druart <lindsay.druart@gmail.com <mailto:lindsay.druart@gmail.com> > wrote:
I wanted ServMe to look at the conversions and I haven't heard anything from her.

On 6/12/08, Scott Nestler <nestler.investments@gmail.com <mailto:nestler.investments@gmail.com> > wrote:
I was under the impression we were sticking with the tier numbers at 90k per month.

Are you questioning the fees for changing the sim?

I also have heard nothing about the down payment on the debt.

-Scott

-----Original Message-----
From: "Lindsay Druart" <lindsay.druart@gmail.com>

Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:57:43
To:"Scott Nestler" <nestler.investments@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: "Looking at the future" proposal concerning Barbary Coast


No. You wanted to stick with 90k a month. I never agreed to that. The changing sim charge is fine but we need to agree on a conversion to be fluid among all parts of the transaction.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Scott Nestler <nestler.investments@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: "Looking at the future" proposal concerning Barbary Coast
To: Lindsay Druart <lindsay.druart@gmail.com>


The 90k per month was part of the 720K debt figure that was already acknowledged by you.

I offered to forget a large chunk for a fast resolution to this and a significant down payment. I have not heard back on this.

I have only a few days to put a ticket in for conversion before another tier payment is due.

Finalizing this before the weekend iis my priority.

-Scott



in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Scott Nestler ]]> Fri, 08 Aug 2008 06:28:13 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15470 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151 Lindsay,

I can appreciate your frustration (as I appreciate the concern and frustration of others here)... HOWEVER...

If I EVER have to spend another 15 minutes editting a single profanity out of one of your messages again YOU will be PERMANENTLY BARRED from ANY participation here whatsoever.

This previous message of yours was BEYOND UNPROFESSSIONAL... and you KNOW I've penned some very terse commentary myself.

PLEASE, let's keep the arguments and debate at least civil.

Bo

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Bogart Beck ]]> Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:11:05 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15459 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
Ivan, unless you have see EVERY CONVERSATION in relation to any of this, you are just blowing smoke and you really should just shut the XXXX up. You are basically playing fan boy for Scott like he is paying you on the side to offer an opinion that doesn't really matter since you have NEVER had any stake here.

The opinions of those that do, actually matter. You, just have nothing better to do because you are talking about XXXX that you have no idea about what so ever and if I even gave you insight you would shut your XXXXXX trap. So save me the grief and just do it. I am so sick of this XXXX . This is why I didn't want to do this here. Same old drama just rehashed. Do you people XXXXX move on or do you just sit here in the foruns all day giving opinions with little to no information.

You want bank statements of the $12,000 that came out of my personal savings to pay off what was lost from paying for the conversion of the website a week before the banking ban? Or perhaps you want the statement of the other $6,000 off my personal credit card that bought lindens at a loss to have something for people to withdraw from the ATMs. Or maybe you want the statements for the other $3,000 of my personal money that has been spent on the excess tier needed recently. Dude...don't give me that XXXX when I am in personal debt up to my eyeballs to try to do XXXX SOMETHING. I watched my credit score go from the high 600s to the low 500s maxing out my personal credit to do what I could...so again...don't give me that. You have NO idea what I have put into cutting $10 million lindens in debt down to $2 million with over 60% of that coming from my own hide. So yes, I spent my XXXX life savings for a XXXXX video game and you are sitting here telling me about some second job bullXXXX . And you know what? Maybe I am a dumb XXX for doing that. I should have just told the market to XXXX it and shrug my shoulder to hand the burden off to someone else like most of the CEOs in failed SL business have done. But I was trying and I still am, so...Kiss my XXXX Ivan. Kiss every last spec of the XXXX dermis on the crack of my XXX .


NOTE: PROFANITY (XXXX's) PURGED by Moderator 11PM 08/07/2008

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Lindsay Druart ]]> Thu, 07 Aug 2008 22:51:58 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15458 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
Frankly in my humble opinion you should liquidate all your SL business (and never try to start another again you cost many investors a whooooooole lot of money - not saying you did it intentionally you just had either bad ideas or poor management skills - in my opinion both)and then call up Cadence.... she can get you a job at the local 7-11 and start paying off your debts. Thats waht people in RL do - heck when I finished college I had to work 2 jobs to pay off my student loans - SL debts should be no problem compared to them!!! Be a stand up peron and get a job and pay the people u owe.

Cheers

Ivan

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Ivan Halfpint ]]> Thu, 07 Aug 2008 20:11:59 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15453 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
The conversion number was agreed to and set along time ago. You agreed to the number publically.

I agreed to your conversion number only with a significant deposit on a payout plan, you refused....

You want to make a repayment plan, make it reasonable, that's all I ever asked for.

I have never threatened you with harm in any way, shape or form. You have no grounds for a restraining order.

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Scott Nestler ]]> Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:27:16 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15446 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
Scott, there are matters with that in which you have no insight and as I told you before, what is decided between me and ServMe is none of your business. I did not refuse the debt. I wanted us to agree on the Linden conversion because there was a huge difference that I could not afford. You didn't want that. As far as SLCC, I stated in the forums that I would be seeking a restraining order and I am very serious. I do not trust you and I do not want to talk to you. The way you have bullied me over the last few months in email.....I have no idea what you would do in person so, I am asking you this now. Stay away from me at SLCC.

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Lindsay Druart ]]> Thu, 07 Aug 2008 19:07:08 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15445 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
What compromise? I offered to even discount the debt to me if you would make a payment, you refused.

You wanted a payment schedule that I couldn't live with and refused to discuss it further.

ServMe withdrew from mediating, my guess is because you cost him $500 USD.

If you owe someone money that person has the right to contact you for payment, you might think it's harassment, but it's not.

I look forward to discussing this further in person at the SLCC.

-Scott

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Scott Nestler ]]> Thu, 07 Aug 2008 18:37:20 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15443 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
This is very simple, I disagree with you because you've simply lost your way with no hope in sight. You claim that you are now surrounding yourself with positive people, are they the ones that say yes to you?

I have made a very reasonable offer for LCA and you have not even considered it. I have no idea why as there's appears to be no other plan.

"The arguing and the fussing went on months ago and I am not delving back into that so when it starts", - this says it all!

CB


in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Cayman Beaumont ]]> Thu, 07 Aug 2008 16:09:56 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15437 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
With regard to Scott, I have not denied the debt, however, the word compromise means coming to an agreement on both sides. Scott has never been willing to consider anything I had to say and pretty much proceeds to talk down to me and threaten me so, for all intensive purposes, I have ignored him trying to work on everyone else. I do thank ServMe for mitigating when she did because we did see head way in the situation but as soon as that medium was removed, Scott when back to being the school yard bully. I requested that he find a proxy that had a bit more tact and no one would help him and now he is refusing. How he hounds me and talks to me is borderline harassment and I don't move faster just because you start bullying me and I am not a 6 year old on the playground. So, I am more than willing to discuss the debt, but only with a proxy or other representation.

Cayman has rarely agreed with me so I don't expect him to now but I think this is fueled more because I have refused on several occasions to sell LCA. My premise in all of this is that it was my screw up and I would rather sell a company with some worth and know that I did the buyer justice, than to hand over a sub prime business just to get it off my hands. I don't work like that.

At this point, I am surrounding myself with positive aspects and positive people. The arguing and the fussing went on months ago and I am not delving back into that so when it starts, I start ignoring. All I want to do here is resolve all possible assets available. With the selling of the two sims and consolidation of assets we will be either just in the red, or just in the green based on my current forecasting. Every little bit counts so every little bit is substantial for me because that is a bit more than we had. I will leave it at that.

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Lindsay Druart ]]> Thu, 07 Aug 2008 15:44:48 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15434 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Dimitri Gasser ]]> Thu, 07 Aug 2008 11:33:20 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15421 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
My point is that if a half-interested writer can put forth the effort to piece this together, I fully expect people blaming everything on his disappearance could have, at the very least, put a bit of legwork into figuring out just what happened. Such an expectation is hardly limited to Lindsay, but each and every individual who attributes a loss of money to that disappearance. Is Scott the only one that has so much as tried?



in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Konner McDonnell ]]> Thu, 07 Aug 2008 07:21:49 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15405 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
She owes out ALOT more then the 50k lindens in her account. When she starts withdrawing money from her LNL Super National SL Peoples Credit Union and paying the people she owes then maybe it would be worth considering unlocking he account. Right now it is laughable to think that she even asked.

There is no evidence to suggest if she did have accesss to that 50k she would use it to settle with creditors - and given her previous track record of failures there is no reason to think that she cna do anything positive with this money

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Ivan Halfpint ]]> Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:39:04 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15401 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151

You tracked him donw - well where is he and why did he dissapear?

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Ivan Halfpint ]]> Thu, 07 Aug 2008 05:22:48 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15400 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
I sent emails and called the phone number I had for him.....nothing

-Scott

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Scott Nestler ]]> Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:41:51 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15391 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
"The listing requirement was breached when Sully disappeared while the other company was still within the correct time frame."

After weeks of listening to people throw out all of these theories that Sully (Michael Sullivan) was in jail, the hospital, assumed missing with Steve Fossett, and/or involved in the Berkley tree sit-in, I took four minutes of my precious time and tracked him down myself. Jimmy Hoffa he ain't. He's reading messages (though not responding to the likes of me).

Has anyone else so much as bothered?

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Konner McDonnell ]]> Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:36:01 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15390 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
From: Scott Nestler <nestler.investments@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:43 PM
Subject: Re: Conclusion
To: Lindsay Druart <lindsay.druart@gmail.com>


I am not using a proxy, Especially after the ordeal that ServMe was put through

You have no right to require me to use one

You want me out or your life, easy

Pay me what you owe me. Buy my shares in LCA and LLFS and I am gone


in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Scott Nestler ]]> Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:05:08 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15389 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
I thought I would share it with all of you....

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Lindsay Druart <lindsay.druart@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, Aug 6, 2008 at 11:30 PM
Subject: Conclusion
To: Scott Nestler <nestler.investments@gmail.com>



I have come to the conclusion that you gravitate to drama and would rather argue, fuss, and flame to get your way than try to find a solution that benefits a collective unit than yourself. You remind me of the school yard bully that pokes fun at the nerd and makes sure to gather an audience to help you make fun of that person. Again, anything regarding the LCA will be addressed with a proxy of your choosing and my approval. Otherwise, I have nothing further to say to you.

--
Lindsay Druart: SL
Sheffie Cochran: RL
Out of my mind: BL (both lives)


in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Scott Nestler ]]> Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:04:05 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15388 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151 I am a major owner in both LLFS and LCA and to this day there is no plan for these companies. Or any communication about a plan.

There is a documented debt between myself and LCA that Lindsay acknowledged in the forums and has yet to pay. As a matter of fact she refuses to even talk to me about it.
Looking thru the forums that Lindsay created is documented proof of her lack of dedication to the restructuring of these entities.

When it comes to shareholder meetings her last pot before today was June 18th where she claimed to not be evading anything, and in today’s post she’s scheduling them in September……

In regard to assets today Lindsay made the following post…..

“Re: Consolidation of Assets
by Lindsay Druart Today at 5:05 pm
At the current moment, it seems that my petition is not in the hands of SL CapEx but the entire market so for all intensive purposes, the notion has been put on the chopping block. We all here know exactly what has transpired but I was making an attempt to focus on the solution, not the shoulda, coulda, woulda. The past is just that. The past. And from the responses on that forum, that is where everyone is staying so....

With that in mind, I am writing off assets held in SL CapEx and moving on. The petition is still in place should some form of reason come from the action but at this point, I will proceed as if those assets are not there and continue otherwise.

Have a read. I will not post another response to the thread. I have talked for well over a year. There is nothing more to say than move on and restructure.”

After reading this and through her lack of action across the board I would ask that nothing be released into her possession until L&L makes good on it’s debts and it’s shareholders.

Thank you,

Scott Nestler

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Scott Nestler ]]> Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:47:08 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15372 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
Nevertheless, if anyone has any questions, they can go to the L&L Corporation forums at http://llcorporationinc.forumotion.com and ask them as there is a thread open for questions or contact me directly as I will not be around the SL CapEx forums.

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Lindsay Druart ]]> Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:06:06 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15371 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
Both LNL and LCA were de-listed from Capex against the wishes of the majority of shareholders.

Lindsay has shown a total dis regard for the shareholders and I have no faith that this will change now that she taken the company private.

In any event how much of a fine does LNL/LCA own for failing to comply with listing requirements? Will there be any funds left after this payment? maybe Capex can then dispose of this fine as they feel appropriate.

Regards,

CB



in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Cayman Beaumont ]]> Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:54:46 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15370 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151
A little under 50k L$ held by capex.... a laughable amount considering what she managed to take from investors here.

*wonders what the payout on each share would be between all companies ... * .000000000000000000000000001 .... :p

shareholders got f'd either way

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Dimitri Gasser ]]> Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:53:58 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15369 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151 08/06/2008 13:41 system announcement
by Bogart Beck

Petition from Lindsay Druart in re; LCA & LNL Assets - 08/06/2008

I received the following petition from Lindsay Druart this AM pursuant to SL Capital Exchange Policy regarding the release of corporate assets held by SL CapEx for recently delisted LCA and LNL. Please find below an itemization of those assets currently held in trust by SL CapEx on behalf of LCA and LNL shareholders.

As I have not kept track of Lindsays efforts or success in reaching acceptable post-delistment arrangements with the LCA and LNL shareholders I will be posting this message in the SL CapEx Forums. Please post any comments or opinions you may have regarding this matter at the following link;

http://www.slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151

I will reserve official SL CapEx commentary until 08/15/2008.

Respectfully,

Bogart Beck
SL CapEx CEO

==============

From: Lindsay Druart
To: Bogart Beck (via GMail)
Date: 08/06/2008 9:50AM SLT

To whom it may concern,

I am submitting a formal petition to have access to the assets on the following accounts: Lindsay Druart, Luke Birdbrain, LNLBT Miles, LNL Bing, LLADN Back, and LNLCA Dawes. At glance, there is a significant amount of assets between these accounts that will greatly assist in our efforts to bring our company out of the red. We are currently liquidating assets to decrease immediate liability to be able to realize profits on a reduced amount of assets so that we can afford to realize dividends and future buybacks for our shareholders a lot sooner.

Currently, we have not decided where to list to publicly trade, but I do plan on providing financial statements for iVentures to catalog along with the other companies as we move back into restructuring beginning in September. The company only has two employees being Lindsay Druart, CEO and Gabrielle Miles, CCO and are currently still operating the land division. All other divisions are on hold until we liquidate enough to stay out of the red for at least 60 days. At that time, I expect to see a slow but steady increase, bringing operations of web services back on line incrementally. All servers, domains, and databases are still maintained and will continue as such.

Please let me know what further steps I need to take to either assist our future or go back to the drawing board. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

--
Lindsay Druart: SL
Sheffie Cochran: RL
Out of my mind: BL (both lives)

================

Portfolio - Lindsay Druart

Accounts
Account Balance Buy orders Available
L and L Bank and Trust 0.00 0.00 Adjust
Lindsay Druart Main 24.80 24.80 Adjust

Stocks
L and L Bank and Trust
Company Shares Sell Orders
INC Innovative Inc. 0
KDC Karlfeldt & Delgado Capital 0
SLCX SL CapEx 0
SLR SL Reports 0
ZEN Zhenya Zoning Real Estate 0

Lindsay Druart Main
Company Shares Sell Orders
INC Innovative Inc. 0
KDC Karlfeldt & Delgado Capital 0
MECH Riot Mechs 0
SLCX SL CapEx 0
SLR SL Reports 0
ZEN Zhenya Zoning Real Estate 0

===========

Portfolio - Luke Birdbrain

Accounts
Account Balance Buy orders Available
Luke Birdbrain Main 5.83 5.83 Adjust

Stocks
Luke Birdbrain Main
Company Shares Sell Orders
KDC Karlfeldt & Delgado Capital 0
MECH Riot Mechs 0
SLCX SL CapEx 246 Transfer
SLW SLWallet.com 0

============

Portfolio - LNLBT Miles

Accounts
Account Balance Buy orders Available
IPOs 0.00 0.00 Adjust
LNLBT Miles Main 45923.79 45923.79 Adjust

Stocks
IPOs
Company Shares Sell Orders
MNM MetaNetwork Media 0
WPM Wise Property Management 0

LNLBT Miles Main
Company Shares Sell Orders
BIG Beck Investment Group 0
DCTY DreamCities.net 0
HBK [ hoorenbeek ] 1890 Transfer
HOT Kush Islands 0
INC Innovative Inc. 0
JTIC JT Investment Certificates 0
KDC Karlfeldt & Delgado Capital 0
MECH Riot Mechs 0
MNM MetaNetwork Media 0
NDX Innovative Index Fund 500 Transfer
RCP Royal Chartered Properties 0
SLCX SL CapEx 0
SLR SL Reports 0
SLW SLWallet.com 0
WPM Wise Property Management 0
XXX Tropical Temptations 0
YEP Yellow Paperclip Corp 0
ZEN Zhenya Zoning Real Estate 0

=========

Portfolio - LNL Bing

Accounts
Account Balance Buy orders Available
LNL Bing Main 0.25 0.25 Adjust

Stocks
LNL Bing Main
Company Shares Sell Orders
SLCX SL CapEx 0

==========

Portfolio - LLADN Back

Accounts
Account Balance Buy orders Available
LLADN Back Main 0.00 0.00 Adjust

Stocks
LLADN Back Main
Company Shares Sell Orders
SLW SLWallet.com 1 Transfer

=============

Portfolio - LNLCA Dawes

Accounts
Account Balance Buy orders Available
LNLCA Dawes Main 0.97 0.97 Adjust

in topic LCA & LNL ASSET Disposition - 08/06/2008 - for review and comment by Bogart Beck ]]> Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:29:57 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/ARCHIVE/2151/15368