SLCapex forum - [ hoorenbeek ] http://slcapex.com/forums/browse/HBK en-us Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:59:02 -0800 Mon, 01 Dec 2008 12:59:02 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/ Kudang SQL2RSS admin@slcapex.com webmaster@slcapex.com 60 <![CDATA[ Re: HBK financial report]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836
http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-Balance-Sheet-Oct-08.xls
http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-IncomeStatement-Oct-08.xls

Best wishes,

The HBK team.

in topic HBK financial report by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Sun, 16 Nov 2008 06:20:12 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836/17355
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK financial report]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836
http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-Balance-Sheet-Sep-08.xls
http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-IncomeStatement-Sep-08.xls

Best wishes,

The HBK team.

in topic HBK financial report by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Sat, 11 Oct 2008 07:08:04 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836/16673
<![CDATA[ Re: Why NOBODY cares here ?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2281 > becasue I didn't get any IM or notecard.
> So I have to say it is not true that communication is impossible.

Limer, I hope you don't want all of HBK shareholders to contact you privately
to ask the same questions. This is a PUBLIC company, and this is a PUBLIC
forum: I hope you would instead prefer to use this forum or other means of communication that this exchange provide (announcements, for istance ...).

> We NEED the money to keep working and paying people, including me
> and Ansor Hoorenbeek of course, because we won't spend 10
> hours a day working for free.

Sure, you deserve your wages, no one objects.

But since this is a public company, you got money from us in IPO,
and you work 10 hours a day on it I don't see why dedicating 5
minutes a week for a brief sum of what's going on at HBK should
be such a problem. You know, it just help us (the shareholders)
feel a bit part of it.

Otherwise, (again), there is no point in being public: just take HBK
private and you don't have to mess with us.

I hope you don't feel attacked: HBK is a good company, but there
are things were you need to improve and I feel the right to
express my opinion.

ciao

in topic Why NOBODY cares here ? by Paci Barbarossa ]]>
Sat, 04 Oct 2008 08:18:00 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2281/16550
<![CDATA[ Re: Why NOBODY cares here ?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2281 So I have to say it is not true that communication is impossible.

On a side note, this last months sales dropped. We estimate it is because of holidays plus the financial crisis.
Our plan regarding dividends was already explained here some months ago:

http://www.slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514

So making it short: if profit excedes expenses, we give dividends. This happened 2 months ago, but didnt happen since then again.

HBK is a real life company and has LOTS of RL expenses. We are several people working the whole day on this. This is not a "I work on my free time and have fun in SL" company.
This means RL wages for the people who work.
This is what some people has problems to understand. We are not keeping all the profits for ourselves. We NEED the money to keep working and paying people, including me and Ansor Hoorenbeek of course, because we won't spend 10 hours a day working for free.

So again, if RL wages, tier, uploads, marketing, etc. are paid and we still have profits, we give dividends.

Best wishes,

Limer Fredriksson

in topic Why NOBODY cares here ? by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Sat, 04 Oct 2008 05:32:24 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2281/16549
<![CDATA[ Re: Why NOBODY cares here ?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2281
I agree with you that this company has no reason to stay public, it should go private. But it seems that even this request will go unanswered.

in topic Why NOBODY cares here ? by Paci Barbarossa ]]>
Sat, 04 Oct 2008 01:45:40 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2281/16546
<![CDATA[ Why NOBODY cares here ?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2281
Then delist this crap (and keep your profits for yourself like you did in the past)and go private no reason for a public trading company when the CEO&management and worse, not even the shareholders give a SH*T about HBK.




in topic Why NOBODY cares here ? by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Fri, 03 Oct 2008 22:50:33 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2281/16544
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in topic Future HBK Dividends by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Fri, 03 Oct 2008 13:58:41 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2260/16535
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in topic Future HBK Dividends by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Mon, 29 Sep 2008 14:21:12 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2260/16498
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in topic Future HBK Dividends by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Sat, 27 Sep 2008 22:37:09 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2260/16478
<![CDATA[ Future HBK Dividends]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2260
when we HBK Shareholders can expect the next dividend payment and is it at least 0,01 per share? (which should be possible since HBK is a very profitable company and most of it going back to your pockets anyway ;)

TX for answer.


SW

in topic Future HBK Dividends by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Mon, 22 Sep 2008 03:04:35 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2260/16414
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK financial report]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836
http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-Balance-Sheet-Aug-08.xls
http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-IncomeStatement-Aug-08.xls

Best wishes,

The HBK team.

in topic HBK financial report by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Thu, 11 Sep 2008 04:47:03 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836/16227
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK undervalued ?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1128
in topic HBK undervalued ? by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Sun, 10 Aug 2008 22:17:06 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1128/15558
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK financial report]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836
http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-Balance-Sheet-Jul-08.xls
http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-IncomeStatement-Jul-08.xls

Dividends will be paid tomorrow.

Best wishes,

The HBK team.

in topic HBK financial report by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Sun, 10 Aug 2008 19:58:43 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836/15551
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in topic what is going on here? by Scott Nestler ]]>
Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:07:02 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14963
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in topic what is going on here? by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Fri, 18 Jul 2008 11:43:35 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14962
<![CDATA[ For the Attention of Hoorenbeek CEO]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2084
If you have not received this notice please contact myself via email: Cash.Yiyuan[at]gmail.com

Regards,
Cash Yiyuan
SL CapEx Management.

in topic For the Attention of Hoorenbeek CEO by Cash Yiyuan ]]>
Wed, 16 Jul 2008 09:05:38 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/2084/14924
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK financial report]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836
http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-Balance-Sheet-Jun-08.xls
http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-IncomeStatement-Jun-08.xls

Finally we are issuing dividends again (40k). We know they are not big at this moment, but you have to consider that we are hiring 2 designers to work on our products and even then, the company continues to grow. If everything keeps going this way, dividends will grow every month.

Dividends will be paid later today, or tomorrow.

Best wishes,

The HBK team


in topic HBK financial report by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Tue, 15 Jul 2008 04:52:28 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836/14906
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888


in topic what is going on here? by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:36:34 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14453
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888 Just keepin' it real babe ;-)

in topic what is going on here? by Bogart Beck ]]>
Wed, 25 Jun 2008 15:18:05 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14444
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in topic what is going on here? by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:30:20 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14437
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
Just another perfect example for "Don't believe everything you read here"...

The "...SOLD at .89..." is COMPLETE BS! The trades crossed at more like $.74 less commissions... still a nice gain, but, Sports your credibility here is waning quickly!

Bo



in topic what is going on here? by Bogart Beck ]]>
Wed, 25 Jun 2008 10:43:28 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14431
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in topic what is going on here? by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Wed, 25 Jun 2008 09:43:11 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14430
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in topic what is going on here? by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:33:37 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14292
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in topic what is going on here? by Botticelli Gabardini ]]>
Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:15:14 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14276
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in topic what is going on here? by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:15:16 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14257
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in topic what is going on here? by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Sat, 14 Jun 2008 08:16:10 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14212
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in topic what is going on here? by William Rustamova ]]>
Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:02:07 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14192
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
Ok, i´ll buy all those cheap shares below 0.41 up now in hope HBK buys them back expensive to let them go private.

No reason to hold that company public anymore.


SW

"Buy when the bombs are falling"
-Andre Kostolany-

in topic what is going on here? by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Fri, 13 Jun 2008 05:40:45 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14159
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
HBK asked money in IPO, which they got and shareholders got nothing in return for months: no good share values, almost no dividends, no communication.

I think they should prove they care a bit about their shareholders; being comunicative on forums would help a lot. Even little dividends would help a lot. For instance, if I were HBK I would change the 400k of salary, into 300k of salary and 100k of dividends: they own 75% of the company, they would still get 375k, but at least it would show a little bit of consideration of shareholders.

I don't see a point in being public for HBK, if they keep money and comunications for themselves.

in topic what is going on here? by Paci Barbarossa ]]>
Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:32:38 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14155
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
He also stated that everything was going according to plan and that shareholders would soon enjoy the benefits of investing with HBK.

Regards,
Cash Yiyuan

in topic what is going on here? by Cash Yiyuan ]]>
Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:58:21 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14140
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
I hear you for sure. I wouldn't be very happy about it either. And Konner's questions are good ones. I read back in the forums to some degree, and there was certainly some shareholder dissent when the announcement was made about the salaries.

I was just making the observation, based on the posts by the CEO, and the conversation in Konner's blog, that if you throw accusations at them they are more likely to give you the finger and continue to keep all the profits. I am not saying that is right. But I suspect it's true.

From what Hoorenbeek said, he blames the shareholders for the poor performance of the stock after IPO and copious dividends. I don't really get that, but that is what he said. To the point where he admitted that they don't listen to shareholders any more. In light of that - further complaints and accusations are only likely to make them dig in their heels more.

On the one hand, yes you have to stand up for what is right. And if you feel like you have been cheated and defrauded, then you should definitely not take it lying down. I know I wouldn't. (and no comments about me taking it lying down from the peanut gallery - you know who you are...) On the other hand, you have to be a realist and realize that this CEO has already dismissed your views as unimportant.

But I guess you have to decide. Do you want to be right? Or do you want to get dividends?

dd



in topic what is going on here? by Delicious Demar ]]>
Thu, 12 Jun 2008 16:05:14 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14137
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888

Also, I'd like to ask a two part question:

1. Why did you invest in a company that only outlined its intended use of capital for the 90 day period following the end of the IPO?

2. Why was this allowed by Capex?

Regards,

Konner



in topic what is going on here? by Konner McDonnell ]]>
Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:25:27 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14135
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
i call this fraud becuse this "strategy" was not given at ipo tie it was declared when the shares where sold since some month.

Naturaly it is fair that they get rewarded for their work. But the reward is that they have 3/4 of the shares so that they would get 3/4 of all dividents.
It is NOT fair and fraude that they get a payment each month AND get 3/4 of the dividents.
I think if they would have told this at ipo time noone would have bought the shares.
To what sense of honor do you want to apeal if someone actls like them ? They where just telling " we will do it like that from now on " and didnt have the guts to replie to the investors.

As long as you can do nothing against such behaviour and falling share prices is something that makes the Owner of a comany smile because he can buy back cheap, as long there will be no strong financial market in SL.
The result is that IPO's like the secondary of NDX are failing now.

Thank you Limmer for taking part in ruining the SL financial market.

Manuela

in topic what is going on here? by Manuela DeVinna ]]>
Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:51:04 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14134
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
Problem is he doesnt really care about his shareholders and I dont imagine he cares about share price. This doesnt make him a fraud though - just an uncaring CEO. There are tonns of them in RL as well. Personally I think that taking 400k out of the business on a monthly basis is excessive - but I dont run the company.
Many innvestors have already showed what they thought of it by selling HBK - thats what people unhappy with limars sallary should have done long ago.

I did.....

Cheers

Ivan

in topic what is going on here? by Ivan Halfpint ]]>
Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:16:23 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14127
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in topic what is going on here? by Jaxon Beaumont ]]>
Thu, 12 Jun 2008 12:53:21 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14115
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
http://www.your2ndplace.com/node/1210

HBK, the company, is doing really well. The CEO has been pretty clear, from what I can tell, since February, about what they were going to do with the income from operations - pay all expenses, including a 400k salary for each of the two principle owners, and then think about dividends. To date, income hasn't been enough to do both. There has not been a firm promise to provide dividends even when there is a profit left over - but they have stated that it would be considered.

If income continues to increase at the rate it has been the last few months, then they will be having this conversation in early July. I hope that the owners will be able to separate their annoyance at their investors (which is palpable), from their commitments to them. Hopefully, they will remember that what they have in [hoorenbeek] is the result of two things: a TON of work of their part to make it happen; and the money put in by investors to allow them to thrive.

It is fair that they get rewarded for that - especially if it is displacing RL income. But it is also fair that shareholders get rewarded as well.

I would strongly caution people against using words like "fraud" in a situation like this. It lumps a strong company like this, that has been clear about its intentions even if shareholders have not liked them, with the true fraudsters in the world of SL finance, that built a house of cards with investor money and then vanished.

The world of SL finance is largely unregulated - and the HBK management has not done anything against the SLCAPEX rules, as far as I can tell. But based on the tone of their own posts, I suspect that serious investors would have a lot more impact by appealing to their sense of honor, rather than attacking it.

Just a thought...

dd


in topic what is going on here? by Delicious Demar ]]>
Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:44:58 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14111
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in topic what is going on here? by Jaxon Beaumont ]]>
Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:37:04 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14105
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
Today both LLFS and LCA were delisted, shareholders are now "in the wind" as far as having anyone look out for their interests.

Back before the interest ban, if I had a policy on LLFS at least I would be getting something for the shares I had.

Anyone have thoughts on this?

in topic what is going on here? by Scott Nestler ]]>
Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:35:24 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14103
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
the sinking share prices and extremely low trade volume shows that the investors have no confidence in Limer. but it does not matter to him because he already has the money taken from the investors, in addiction to the monthly profits which he keeps.

well done Limer, congratulations on screwing the share holders and keeping all that profit. good example of scam in sl.

i also agree that action has to be taken against people like this.

in topic what is going on here? by Jaxon Beaumont ]]>
Thu, 12 Jun 2008 10:28:44 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14101
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888 the income in going up and this guys are simply taking all of it for themselfs. And the worsed is they not even have the guts to show up here and resped !!!

This guys are are a good example why the financiela market in SL is not developing well.
They own 3/4 of the shares so 3/4 of the profit would go to their pockets anyway . But no they have to shit on the investors taking all for themself.
The problem is that i didnt see any suggestions yet what can be done against such fraud.

Manuela


in topic what is going on here? by Manuela DeVinna ]]>
Thu, 12 Jun 2008 09:37:37 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/14099
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK financial report]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836
http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-Balance-Sheet-May-08.xls
http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-IncomeStatement-May-08.xls

Best wishes,

The HBK team.

in topic HBK financial report by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:25:17 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836/14056
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
I have made a few and never has anyone replied.

-Scott

in topic what is going on here? by Scott Nestler ]]>
Thu, 29 May 2008 10:29:54 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/13716
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
"Taking a look at the financial report, I see an increase in sales of over L$200,000. In line with the announcement Limer made on the 24th of February, salaries have been increased (from L$400,000 to L$500,000).

If the original statement that a monthly salary of L$400,000 for each would be appropriate remains, we're looking at at least two maybe three more months of growth (at the same pace) before the increase in sales can cover salary cost alone.

That brings us very close to the yearly slump period known as summertime, when less people log in and sales go down."

Nothing has changed since and I assume that as long as the wage goal for the two designers is not met, no dividends will be forthcoming.

in topic what is going on here? by Servme Nakamura ]]>
Sat, 24 May 2008 11:44:37 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/13580
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888 To be honest this here is realy the biggest
piss take of investors i have seen since long .
The CEO holds 3/4 of the shares. So 3/4 of the dividents whould have gone to him anyways. But he hast to take it all.
As long as thers nothing you can do against companies like that and as long as a company is not suffering from crashing prices of the shareholder value (in fact they even make profit on itbecause they can buy back cheap), as long there will be no real progres in the market. More and more investors will retreat because they dont know anymore whom to trust and where to invest.

I for my part dont know anymore where to invest and i think i will try to get my money out of all this as soon as i can and say good bye to trading of sl Stocks.

Manuela


in topic what is going on here? by Manuela DeVinna ]]>
Sat, 24 May 2008 09:41:08 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/13576
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
looks like one of those companies which screw investors after they get the investments from them.

in topic what is going on here? by Jaxon Beaumont ]]>
Sat, 24 May 2008 02:44:19 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/13552
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
A few good points made regarding how shareholders actually benefit in HBK. Share price remains low and no dividends issued.

However, HBK has been utilizing their retained earnings and are growing steadily. They are now operating on one full sim, not half. Their cash on hand is well over their total liabilities by almost 5x. If they focus on lowering their operating costs while retaining positive earnings, HBK might be one of the very few companies to buyout the remaining shares and operate privately.

Then again, shareholders still don't necessarily benefit as the repurchased shares remain below book value.

This should be addressed in the following Shareholder Meetings since HBK is growing.

iV

in topic what is going on here? by iVentures Volitant ]]>
Thu, 15 May 2008 08:36:39 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/13213
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Paci Barbarossa

in topic what is going on here? by Paci Barbarossa ]]>
Thu, 15 May 2008 08:18:47 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/13210
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in topic what is going on here? by Scott Nestler ]]>
Thu, 15 May 2008 07:33:35 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/13207
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
in topic what is going on here? by Bobbi Katscher ]]>
Thu, 15 May 2008 06:14:05 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/13200
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
Limer, will you please speak up?

in topic what is going on here? by Jaxon Beaumont ]]>
Wed, 14 May 2008 11:18:56 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/13147
<![CDATA[ Furniture Company]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1889
I know the stores were on the same sim till recently.

in topic Furniture Company by Scott Nestler ]]>
Wed, 14 May 2008 10:36:55 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1889/13131
<![CDATA[ Re: what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
Thats way more then I make in a month in RL :P

in topic what is going on here? by Ivan Halfpint ]]>
Wed, 14 May 2008 10:06:24 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/13116
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK financial report]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836 Our complete financial report (including both sheets) is ABOVE your post.

There will be no halt.

in topic HBK financial report by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Wed, 14 May 2008 09:54:24 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836/13110
<![CDATA[ what is going on here?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888
could you please comment on what is going on? share prices are dropping extremely and we have not heard news from you nor are we receiving any dividents.

in topic what is going on here? by Jaxon Beaumont ]]>
Wed, 14 May 2008 09:48:27 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1888/13108
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK financial report]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836 Shareholders,

Please be advised. HBK is currently incurring L$5,000 per day in FINES assessed by SL Capital Exchange for the manner in which Limer and Ansor Post their Financials.

Be forewarned, HBK will be HALTED at 12:01AM SLT 05/15/2008 for Reporting Non-Compliance should the Balance Sheet not be posted pursuant the continued listing requirements here.

Ansor, Limer - this is getting RIDICULOUS shoes or no shoes your PRIMARY RESPONSIBILITY is to your SHAREHOLDERS who are ENTITLED to TIMELY AND ACCURATE REPORTING... SHEESH!

Bo

in topic HBK financial report by Bogart Beck ]]>
Wed, 14 May 2008 08:48:51 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836/13079
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK financial report]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836 Here are the financials for April 08.

http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK_Balance_Sheet_April_08.xls
http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-IncomeStatement-07April.xls

Best wishes,

The HBK team.

in topic HBK financial report by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Wed, 14 May 2008 08:17:11 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836/13067
<![CDATA[ Re: delisting]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1834
in topic delisting by Jaxon Beaumont ]]>
Sat, 03 May 2008 07:20:02 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1834/12599
<![CDATA[ Re: delisting]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1834
in topic delisting by Ashleigh Wade ]]>
Sat, 03 May 2008 06:35:13 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1834/12598
<![CDATA[ delisting]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1834
in topic delisting by Jaxon Beaumont ]]>
Fri, 02 May 2008 12:36:54 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1834/12578
<![CDATA[ Re: dividend]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575 Maybe HBK would announce a dividentpolicy.

in topic dividend by Sean4you Shepherd ]]>
Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:25:03 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575/12402
<![CDATA[ Re: dividend]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575
in topic dividend by Jaxon Beaumont ]]>
Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:43:11 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575/12400
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK financial report]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836
Here is the Balance Sheet for March 08.

http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK_Balance_Sheet_March_08.xls

in topic HBK financial report by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Mon, 28 Apr 2008 08:53:08 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836/12385
<![CDATA[ Re: Official Weekly Update &amp;#45; For CEO Posting Only ]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1043 While we dont agree on this measure, we already contacted iVentures for their accounting services to start working ASAP on this. More news as we get them.
Cheers,

Limer Fredriksson

in topic Official Weekly Update - For CEO Posting Only by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:52:40 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1043/11913
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK financial report]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836
Here is the income statement for March 08.

www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-IncomeStatement-06March.xls

in topic HBK financial report by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Sat, 12 Apr 2008 11:55:23 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836/11388
<![CDATA[ Re: Official Weekly Update &amp;#45; For CEO Posting Only ]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1043
Since the last update we released the following products:
- [ hoorenbeek ] Allen Shoes: Sculpted elegant formal shoes in 3 colors.
- [ hoorenbeek ] Delfts: Sculpted and scripted wool beanies in 15 colors.
- [ hoorenbeek ] Outfits: 5 new full outfits
- [ hoorenbeek ] California Flip Flops: Sculpted leather flip flops in 3 different colors.
- [ hoorenbeek ] All Stars Special Edition: After the success of our converse like sneakers we made more options with different desigsn and materials.
- [ hoorenbeek ] Sculpted Caps: We replaced our old regular prim caps with this new sculpted ones which fit perfect on every head.
- [ hoorenbeek ] Combat Boots: Sculpted military style boots in 3 different colors.

Last but not least, the new store building is being finished soon. As you can see, we've been very busy bees.

Feel free to drop at the shop to check all this out!

Best wishes and until the next update,

The HBK team.

in topic Official Weekly Update - For CEO Posting Only by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Tue, 01 Apr 2008 07:08:36 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1043/10966
<![CDATA[ Re: dividend]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575
in topic dividend by Ivan Halfpint ]]>
Tue, 18 Mar 2008 11:48:02 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575/10429
<![CDATA[ Re: Official Weekly Update &amp;#45; For CEO Posting Only ]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1043
As always, everything is going forward and looks very good.
During the last weeks we released the [ hoorenbeek ] All stars ("the best converse like shoes in SL" comment by SLMen.com), the timberland style and highly succesful [ hoorenbeek ] Patagonia boots, the classic and detailed [ hoorenbeek ] Docker shoes and some cool outfits.
Last but not least, we developed a new line of designer t-shirts which can also be bought in RL! Yes, you can wear your avatar and yourself at [ hoorenbeek ]!

We'll be releasing more cool stuff during March. Also, we are developing a new and great looking building for the store.

Until next update,

The HBK team.

in topic Official Weekly Update - For CEO Posting Only by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Wed, 12 Mar 2008 08:29:01 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1043/10207
<![CDATA[ Re: dividend]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575
If the original statement that a monthly salary of L$400,000 for each would be appropriate remains, we're looking at at least two maybe three more months of growth (at the same pace) before the increase in sales can cover salary cost alone.

That brings us very close to the yearly slump period known as summertime, when less people log in and sales go down.

in topic dividend by Servme Nakamura ]]>
Tue, 11 Mar 2008 03:48:26 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575/10127
<![CDATA[ Re: dividend]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575
I dont care about it, since the banking ban noone gets any interests anymore, so i only invest for long term in thrustworthy companys which are paying any kind of dividend every month.

Without dividend a company only gets "trash investors" (like Limer said) which are spread trading and killing the stock prize like at MNM at the moment.

There is no reason to let money in a dormant holding when its everytime possible that LL will ban stock exchanges because of too much fraud or CEO decides to leave SL or whatever else.

Its only dead money with the high possibility to loose it forever and with the even sinking thrust in sl finance the stocks only can sink in long term.

I am working too in SL, and i am spending a lot of time there, and other people, too but i dont try to earn really amounts of money there. The whole time and work i am spending here is for fun and for the community and when someone thinks he can live from that what he is doing here he can do that.

But not with my money. I will invest that better in companys which give me the confidence that they are making here anything for all and not only for themselves.

There were enough people in the past which have only earned money so long it went and then they left sl for another money earning projects or maybe started a new venture with a new account. The investors left without anything.

Most of the SL CEOs havent made their business longer than a year, some of them only a few months and than they have sold their companys or crashed them.

Because of that i dont care about a few L$ in dividend i could get per month, i care for thrust that the CEO will make anything for SL and not only for himself.

Such CEOs wont care about losses of their investors when they decides to make anything other than sl and that kind of folks we have in SL really enough...

in topic dividend by Hellge Schnyder ]]>
Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:42:08 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575/10105
<![CDATA[ Re: dividend]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575
in topic dividend by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:57:30 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575/10100
<![CDATA[ Re: dividend]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575
No need to hold that stock longer...

But congrats for such a profitable company...

in topic dividend by Hellge Schnyder ]]>
Mon, 10 Mar 2008 16:54:33 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575/10098
<![CDATA[ Re: dividend]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575
in topic dividend by Nestor Kembla ]]>
Mon, 10 Mar 2008 14:01:10 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575/10095
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK financial report]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836
Here is the income statement for February 08.

http://www.ikonzept.com.ar/HBK-IncomeStatement-05February.xls

We'll be posting the pending balance sheets ASAP.

As always, everything is going forward and looks very good.
During the last weeks we released the [ hoorenbeek ] All stars ("the best converse like shoes in SL" comment by SLMen.com), the timberland style and highly succesful [ hoorenbeek ] Patagonia boots, the classic and detailed [ hoorenbeek ] Docker shoes and some cool outfits.
Last but not least, we developed a new line of designer t-shirts which can also be bought in RL! Yes, you can wear your avatar and yourself at [ hoorenbeek ]!

We'll be releasing more cool stuff during March. Also, we are developing a new and great looking building for the store.

Until next update,

The HBK team.

in topic HBK financial report by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Mon, 10 Mar 2008 06:59:38 -0700 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/836/10082
<![CDATA[ dividend]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575
in topic dividend by Hellge Schnyder ]]>
Tue, 04 Mar 2008 12:10:04 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1575/9757
<![CDATA[ Affiliates?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1537
in topic Affiliates? by Scott Nestler ]]>
Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:34:51 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1537/9360
<![CDATA[ Re: [ hoorenbeek ] Update]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514
And you forget that noone can ask the CEO about any news because of enough fraud in the past, noone can guarantee me that your infos are right so some investors dont ask the CEO but rather search for infos in independent souces.

Dont want to say that you arent respectably but you can agree to me that there were enough CEO which has made nice announcements and from one day to another they were delisted and all of the shareholder money was gone.

Also you forget that the whole risk is by the shareholders. When you ever crash with your company or decide to leave SL i guess that you never will refund us, isnt it so?

Its for me a simple deal:

We (the investors) give you our money to start and rise your business and you let us participate from your earnings.

Why should anyone make a long term investment when only the Company earns everything?

Companys without dividends have more "trash investors" than some with monthly dividends.

It could be a good way to make a specific rate in % for salarys and dividends from the net profit.

When the business is working good all gets more and when the business goes bad all gets less.







in topic [ hoorenbeek ] Update by Hellge Schnyder ]]>
Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:29:51 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514/9330
<![CDATA[ Re: Shop attendants]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1511
A contact script could be enough.

When i want to shop it nerves me to close all the f"§&/$%g notecards and landmarks.

I know what i am searching for and i know how to buy anything and the most other residents are knowing this, too...

Employees are standing the whole day in the shop and costs money. Thats not necessary i think.

A simple contact to anyone should be enough if there are problems...



in topic Shop attendants by Hellge Schnyder ]]>
Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:10:14 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1511/9328
<![CDATA[ Re: Shop attendants]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1511
in topic Shop attendants by Scott Nestler ]]>
Wed, 27 Feb 2008 10:38:34 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1511/9320
<![CDATA[ Re: [ hoorenbeek ] Update]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514 once shareholder and depositor and other rights are legally established, there will likely be an exponential increase in capital investment and development. Real life banks are
still looking closely at establishing operations and some
of their people are reading and following these discussions
as well as asking questions.



in topic [ hoorenbeek ] Update by William Rustamova ]]>
Tue, 26 Feb 2008 07:24:03 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514/9269
<![CDATA[ Re: [ hoorenbeek ] Update]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514
I don't think it is right for the company's key content
creators to work in under "digital sweatshop" conditions
and the decision to pay wages is being properly accounted for in their financial filings. They should find a good cheap textbook on accounting and learn how to create a balance sheet. They are not the only company that has not filed one yet. One CEO did not even know what one was. These markets are a learning experience.

The market has responded to the companys decisions and it is reflected in the share price.

What concerns me a bit is a hint of a threat to "take all the marbles and go home" in the update. In my opinion, Second Life and other virtual world are not a game when you
borrow, or sell shares to use other people's money. There is an implied contract and a digital record of those deals, even if as yet there are no protocols and legal documents to protect shareholders, depositors and lenders. Theft of property at the minimum could result in seizure of digital assets, and suspension of accounts in Second Life and other virtual worlds and third party websites such as stock markets.

There is still a long digital trail of evidence and people who may have commited criminal acts in the past or still owe people money like Ginko may still yet be brought to justice or have to pay restitution as the rules and laws of the digital economy evolve.

The United States and other countries that such as Sweden that currently host these virtual worlds such as Second Life and Entropia face a huge competion fron China which has launched massive investments into virtual worlds.
American laws for virtual stock fraud or theft might be far more lenient than those of China, but the USA has the intelligence capability to find a virtual criminal or terrorist.

in topic [ hoorenbeek ] Update by William Rustamova ]]>
Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:54:00 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514/9267
<![CDATA[ Re: [ hoorenbeek ] Update]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514 Investors here are very sensible, considering the risk involved, and the decision of the ceo to prevent a short term ROI for his shareholders is not the best considering that risks here in sl are much much more compared to RL.
I liquidated too my HBK position, more time in the market means more risk you are accepting to take and i dont want to take risk for zero dividends considering that there is not enough buyers here to push consistently up the stock price, so without dividends most of capex stocks here are a bad investment, forget about price appreciation in a so small market. Dividends are fundamental here to substain prices,
and hbk CEO is not considering this, and so, to my eyes, he is bit unrespectful to his shareholders that partially financed his project. AS i already said last week, a yield of 1% monthly is not impossible to pay, it is more or less 50k lindens in dividends each month but Limer refuse to lissen....his reasons are right BUT incompatible with sl economy, it is not enough big to substain real life wages for now except for few, try to understand it Mr Limer.

Good Luck to HBK shareholders

CYA








in topic [ hoorenbeek ] Update by Enky Nakamura ]]>
Tue, 26 Feb 2008 06:07:03 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514/9266
<![CDATA[ Re: [ hoorenbeek ] Update]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514
In addition to the salary decision HBK continues to miss deadlines for shareholder communications required to remain listed on CAPEX. This puts shareholders at risk. The risk may have been worth it for the return before but now that there is no return it is my opinion that HBK is a risky and poor investment.

Also whats to stop the CEO's from giving themselves a raise as soon as the additional dividends are available.

Really this was a bad mistake. You had a growing asset pool in your stake in the company. All those shares owned would have been worth 2-3 L each if you had stuck to a fair distribution. A secondary offering would have worked in the future as well. Now ... well good luck with that. On top of that people who put faith in this company got burned because they where asuming the dividend policy would remain intact for the existance of the company when they bought these shares and as they have not the share price will not recover.

Best of luck

Dezmond Martinek

in topic [ hoorenbeek ] Update by Dezmond Martinek ]]>
Tue, 26 Feb 2008 05:00:51 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514/9263
<![CDATA[ Re: [ hoorenbeek ] Update]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514

in topic [ hoorenbeek ] Update by Fujiwara Food ]]>
Tue, 26 Feb 2008 04:18:24 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514/9260
<![CDATA[ Re: [ hoorenbeek ] Update]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514
As an investor, I don't see anything wrong with you getting paid. If you don't pay dividends .. thats OK too.

When you sell stock in your company, what happens to that stock is not for you to control. You can buy it back, sell more, promote it .. but on any stock exchange in the world
stocks are bought and sold by investors and traders.
In real life if your company is sucessful and you continue to access capital from stock markets, you will encounter short sellers, hedge funds and unfriendly analysts too. My advice is to ignore your share price and the market and build your company. The market will eventually reward your effort.



in topic [ hoorenbeek ] Update by William Rustamova ]]>
Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:05:18 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514/9208
<![CDATA[ [ hoorenbeek ] Update]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514
First of all, we would like to say that this is a special post due to the recent events and the decision of setting a salary for the management.
Do not expect this kind of post often. We think that all your doubts about the future of [ hoorenbeek ] will be cleared when reading what follows:

We have to make clear that one thing are dividends and another salaries. It doesn't matter how many shares of a company an employee has. His/Her salary is in concept of the work done and the dividends will come out of what is left after paying all expenses, including salaries of the management, designers and employees.

If [ hoorenbeek ]'s management had decided NOT to get a salary paid on BENEFIT of investors for some months -which, in our opinion, has never been really appreciated- doesn't mean that this has to be a constant.
For the company's growth just as it is developing now, it is necessary to work and dedicate LOTS of daily (and nightly) hours to it and it's ABSOLUTELY valid and fair to get a fixed salary paid (which not depends on the company's profits) for that work.

Furthermore, our experience shows that even when giving good dividends and not getting our salaries paid, shares never kept stable at more than L$1.3. So, if in spite of our sacrifice, shares didn't increase in value proportional to the real company growth, neither we believe that they should go down for not giving dividends for a while.

And if shares didn't kept stable at a higher price or if they go down from now on, it is because of the great quantity of "trash investors" inside SLCapex. These investors are, for example, the ones who buy L$10.000 of shares at L$1 and when shares are about L$1.4 they sell them at L$1.1 to win L$1000. This makes the share price to go down all the time, damaging the serious investors who appoint for a long/medium term business.
These "trash investors" are the ones we do NOT want in [ hoorenbeek ].
Neither we want investors that think everything is about getting a dividend every month. This is NOT how investing works.
Do you buy USD10k in Google shares to expect getting a dividend paid every year to recoup your investment? If so, you have no idea what this game is about. Please go play the stock market with other's company shares.

Most of these issues are out of our hands. We need the serious investors to take this people out of the company by buying their shares and not selling back at low prices.

To end the salary subject, we would like to make clear that salaries will continue to be paid to Pilgrim Nordwind and Ansor Hoorenbeek until a sum of L$400k -initially- is reached for each one.
It is then when the dividend matter will be reviewed.
This is not a random or capricious decision. In the last months, many times we had to dedicate more hours to SL than to our RL jobs and, little by little, [ hoorenbeek ] has been becoming our main occupation.
You can get proof of this yourself by coming to the shop and seeing the quality of the presented products, the customer care and the periodicity of our releases.

We have doubts about any of our investors to be prone to work for more than 10 hours a day for U$D800. Certainly, we cannot, and consider unfair the incoming complains for dividends without noticing the efforts made by us.

The value of a company is not only given by the money issued on dividends, but also for what it produces, for it's public image, brand, customer base, assets, long term value and many others elements.

Do you want [ hoorenbeek ]'s value? Go to SLMen (one of the most respected Men's fashion blog) and take a look at this:
"...These "All Stars" from Hoorenbeek are, for now, and in my humble opinion, the best "Converse like" shoes on the grid..."
Behold the ONREZ/EFA prize we won and realize that we won among many GREAT companies making products in SL. This prize was based on sales, and even when the other participants made women's products we won anyway. THIS is value.

Consider also, that when we first got involved in SLCapex, there were none of the several rules that are now being imposed, like sheets or weekly posts.
Even when at that time we were clear with the SLCapex management and told them we were only committing to the existing rules, we are now making efforts to do what they are asking for, even when we didn't commit to it. Please also notice that unlike many other companies in SLCapex our trading has NEVER been halted.

About our plans for the future, we believe they are clear. We want to be the best on SL.
It is our desire to win more prizes; we want to generate more high quality products. And that is what we are going to do.
In the next months you will see, on a weekly basis, the quantity and quality of the products being released for sale.
This rhythm will remain for a long time.
Once our image in the SL men's market is consolidated, [ hoorenbeek ] Woman will be released (a project that is already being developed).

Our goal is growth, and we really believe that we are going through the right path. If you have doubts about this or any other matters, speak to us. Do not fall in the wrong ways of gossip and exchanging assumptions with other shareholders. Ask US. WE have the REAL information.

It has happened several times lately that we find an investor in the shop, standing there for hours and when we ask him/her if there is something we can do to help or have any questions, says no.
We don't understand these kinds of things.

An open doors policy have always been kept, and that is not going to change. Do you want to know something? Contact us and ask.
But also consider that sometimes we can't reply instantly. This is not because we have secrets or denial. It is because we are VERY BUSY making the company successful. So, see what we've done so far and trust us.

To finish, we would like to state that we consider the behavior of Strongman Shelford (a person that for us lost all credibility and respect) absolutely out of place. The posting of personal data on this forum, as if a crime is being committed to justify this, is ridiculous and UNSAFE for anyone here. If the SLCapex management wants to keep us in this game, they should take action accordingly by removing the post IMMEDIATELY, AND ensuring the privacy and safety for all the participants. This is PARAMOUNT AND URGENT.

We didn't break any rule and made no crime. If you have doubts about this, we remind you of this link:
http://www.slcapex.com/content/disclosure

Despite of our company being real (and you can easily get proof of it), SLCapex is a game we decided to play.
We don't say this in a contemptuous way nor we underestimate SLCapex, but don't forget about it. It is a GAME we all CHOOSE to play.

If we get late presenting a balance sheet or posting an update, this it is getting late IN THE GAME. Sometimes we need to set priorities and it is then when we choose not to be late in what is NOT a game. If there is something you have to consider always it's the next thing:

We can be late in the game, but we'll never be late in what makes our company REALLY grow, because unlike SLCapex, [ hoorenbeek ] IS NOT a game.

Comments and questions will be replied when possible.

Best wishes,

Pilgrim Nordwind & Ansor Hoorenbeek
[ hoorenbeek ] CEO's

in topic [ hoorenbeek ] Update by Limer Fredriksson ]]>
Sun, 24 Feb 2008 09:48:08 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1514/9169
<![CDATA[ Re: Shop attendants]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1511
in topic Shop attendants by Berono Inshan ]]>
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 18:53:48 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1511/9144
<![CDATA[ Re: Shop attendants]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1511
in topic Shop attendants by Servme Nakamura ]]>
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:33:27 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1511/9139
<![CDATA[ Re: Shop attendants]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1511
in topic Shop attendants by William Rustamova ]]>
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 16:05:40 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1511/9137
<![CDATA[ Shop attendants]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1511
in topic Shop attendants by Berono Inshan ]]>
Sat, 23 Feb 2008 15:58:23 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1511/9136
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK undervalued ?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1128
Sports... well that forcast was old and it came true.

Limer your robbing us.

in topic HBK undervalued ? by Dezmond Martinek ]]>
Fri, 22 Feb 2008 16:36:10 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1128/9090
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK undervalued ?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1128
Yeah , i admit . I really have to stop dreaming ;)
I guess i am a dreamaholic.

in topic HBK undervalued ? by Sean4you Shepherd ]]>
Fri, 22 Feb 2008 01:40:20 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1128/9040
<![CDATA[ Re: HBK undervalued ?]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1128 Damn you all dreaming be happy it not hit the 50cents soon.
Current bid 70cents.

in topic HBK undervalued ? by Sportsbets Writer ]]>
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 18:15:30 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1128/9029
<![CDATA[ Re: JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454
I am not accusing anyone here. But it was a very tricky move creating the General Expenses.
This should be commented at the IPO.
The rules at the IPO were ( and I was there) 75% of profits for them, the remaining 25% for investors.

feel free to email me: strongman.shelford@gmail.com

or you can visit my website:

www.SCAMMERFIGHTER.COM
lol ,just kidding


in topic JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT by Strongman Shelford ]]>
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 17:24:10 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454/9025
<![CDATA[ Re: JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454 Ansorena is according to the prospect. But the first name isnt the same.

Can you translate anything important written about them and send to me in world ?

Thanks

Sean

in topic JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT by Sean4you Shepherd ]]>
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:41:05 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454/9007
<![CDATA[ Re: JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454

go to www.nic.ar

type ikonzept ...

Strongman
Scammer Fighter

LOL

in topic JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT by Strongman Shelford ]]>
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 12:50:51 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454/8999
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in topic JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT by Hellge Schnyder ]]>
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:00:08 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454/8984
<![CDATA[ Re: JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454
Since the banking ban no new announcement only in the financial report that ceos are cashing out company...

looks like an upcoming bankruptcy of hbk...

in topic JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT by Hellge Schnyder ]]>
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 07:53:57 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454/8983
<![CDATA[ Re: JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454 And the great dividend of 5200 linden for january it's not yet paid, which of course 77% of that great dividend will go in the ceo pockets. I sold my entire stake after that decision to keep 400k as a salary, no more interested in that unrespectable ceo, maybe he needs some lessons on how to better manage relations with investors.
Last point this company is not in compliant with capex rules, no weekly update, no balance sheet.

Cya


in topic JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT by Enky Nakamura ]]>
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 01:52:30 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454/8969
<![CDATA[ Re: JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454
And i hope HBK remember SLcapex rules about weekly updates.
It seems like HBK have their own "MONTHLY" update instead of weekly.
And i hope HBK will present their balance sheet as they said..

With lack of information and communication i guess the stockprice will drop significant.
Thats would be a very good opportunity for HBK to buy out the company from SL capex at a fraction of what its worth.

I DO hope thats not THE plan.



in topic JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT by Sean4you Shepherd ]]>
Thu, 21 Feb 2008 00:55:36 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454/8965
<![CDATA[ Re: JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT]]> http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454
in topic JAN 08 EARNINGS REPORT by Servme Nakamura ]]>
Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:43:52 -0800 http://slcapex.com/forums/topic/HBK/1454/8957